This is Gail Trotter, host of RIGHT IN DC. I had the pleasure of being able to attend CPAC 2019 and I so enjoyed seeing friends of this show and also friends of mine from the conservative political movement. I enjoyed speaking with Patrice Onwuka of the Independent Women’s Forum, David Harsanyi who is an author and a writer at the Federalist, and Jim Simpson who is also a writer. I hope you enjoy these interviews with the three of them as much as I enjoyed talking with them.
My first guest is Patrice Lee Onwuka, Senior Policy Analyst at the Independent Women’s Forum and a good friend of mine. In our interview, we discussed the topics she has been primarily been interviewed about recently: socialism, AOC, AOC’s foe Ivanka Trump who advocates for creating jobs, FLOTUS and her style, and the bias of women’s magazines.
David Harsanyi, a senior editor at The Federalist, and I talked about CPAC this year and what he has been interviewed on recently: gun control, socialism and infanticide, “Che” AOC.
Jim Simpson is an activist, author and freelance journalist. We talked about Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) who he calls the poster child for the Red-Green axis (the collaboration between the hard left in America and the organized Muslim activists aligned with the Muslim Brotherhood—both of whom are hardcore anti-American). We also talked about the Democratic Socialists of America, and the socialist extremists who have come out of the closet, and how this will affect the country and the world. Socialism is organized catastrophe.
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Patrice Onwuka
Patrice Onwuka, a senior policy analyst at Independent Women’s Forum. Onwuka has worked in the advocacy and communications fields for more than a decade. Prior to joining IWF, Onwuka served as national spokeswoman and communications director at Generation Opportunity, and worked at The Philanthropy Roundtable and the Fund for American Studies in policy and media roles. She also held consulting roles as a speech writer for a United Nations spokesman and a manager for a student travel program to South Africa. Born in the Caribbean, Patrice immigrated with her family to Boston where she grew up and completed her education. She earned her bachelor’s degree in economics and political science from Tufts University and a master’s degree in international relations from Boston College. Patrice’s unique background fuels her passion to defend freedom and faith in America.
http://iwf.org/about/patrice-lee-onwuka
http://twitter.com/patricepinkfile
https://twitter.com/iwf
David Harsanyi
David Harsanyi is a senior editor at The Federalist, a nationally syndicated columnist through Creators Syndicate, a Happy Warrior columnist at National Review and author of four books. His work has appeared in the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Weekly Standard, New York Post, RealClearPolitics, Reason, USA Today, and numerous other publications. He has appeared on Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, ABC World News Tonight, NBC Nightly News and dozens of radio talk shows across the country.
Twitter: @DavidHarsanyi
https://davidharsanyi.com/
James Simpson
https://pjmedia.com/columnist/james-simpson/
James Simpson is an economist, investigative journalist, businessman and author. His most recent book is The Red Green Axis: Refugees, Immigration and the Agenda to Erase America. His articles and research work have been published in Accuracy in Media, American Thinker, Breitbart, Capital Research Center, Center for Security Policy, Daily Caller, PJ Media, Washington Times, and elsewhere. Mr. Simpson is also featured in the documentaries The Enemies Within, AGENDA: Grinding America Down, AGENDA II: Masters of Deceit, and most recently, Sabotage, How the Islamists, Marxists and Their “Useful Idiots” Are Destroying America from Within. Follow Jim on Twitter & Facebook.
https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/ilhan-omar-poster-child-for-the-red-green-axis/
Ilhan Omar: Poster Child for the Red-Green Axis
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Gayle Trotter
This is Gayle Trotter. Host of Right in DC. I had the pleasure of being able to attend CPAC 2019 and I so enjoyed seeing friends of this show and also friends of mine from the conservative political movement. I enjoyed speaking with Patrice Onwuka of the Independent Women’s Forum; David Harsanyi, who is an author and a writer at the Federalist; and Jim Simpson, who is also a writer.
I hope you enjoy these interviews with the three of them, as much as I enjoyed talking with them.
[Interview with Patrice Onwuka]Gayle Trotter
This is Gayle Trotter reporting from CPAC 2019. I am so excited to have as a guest on our show, Patrice Onwuka. She’s a senior policy analyst with the Independent Women’s Forum and a good friend of mine.
Great to be with you, Patrice.
Patrice Onwuka
Thank you, Gayle. Great to be with you, too.
GT
You are here talking to all of these shows, radio shows, TV shows, about what topic is particularly on your mind right now?
PO
Socialism.
GT
Why is socialism such a topic of conversation nationally right now?
PO
AOC, three letters, representing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and the ideas that she’s bringing to the table with her Green New Deal. Interestingly, she has a new foe in the first daughter and advisor to the president, Ivanka Trump.
GT
Would that be Ivanka Trump?
PO
Yes. She’s actually going after Ivanka for saying that the idea of guaranteed jobs is not a good idea and that Americans, in their heart of hearts, they don’t want to be given a job or given something. They actually want to pursue it themselves.
GT
AOC, or as I’ve heard her called on Radio Row at CPAC, Che OC, is out there making these, I would say they’re kind of eighth grade, student council, president nominee promises of guaranteed income, even for people who don’t want to work and you contrast that with Ivanka Trump, who has been a business owner, has done a lot since she’s been in this position to put forward women’s entrepreneurship. That seems like that’s in stark contrast to what Che OC is trying to get the Congress to pass.
PO
Absolutely. Let’s not forget, Ivanka Trump has been championing workforce issues, getting Americans who have been on the sidelines into the workforce in lots of different ways. Getting corporations to work with communities, to reskill and retool Americans, because we know a lot of folks, they don’t have the skills they need to get access to the seven million unfilled jobs today. It’s ironic that you’ve got a young woman who is very starry eyed and believes she has these solutions to everything coming to the table and going after Ivanka saying that she doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
GT
It’s not just between Ivanka and AOC, we also see that some of the national icons of fashion have gotten into this dispute as well; is that true?
PO
That is absolutely true. There is an interesting article, I believe it was Marie Claire this week or, sorry, Glamour magazine where this reporter, maybe she’s a reporter or commentator, rips into Ivanka Trump saying that she’s out of touch. That she’s wealthy. What does she know about creating jobs? What does she know about the plight of people? She’s showing her mean-girl colors all over. She’s jealous. You could tell it and, really, she had no substantive push back other than this is a rich girl, from privilege, who is trying to tell us how to provide jobs.
Actually, you’re talking about someone who has employed people, as you rightly said, who is an entrepreneur representing the millions of female business entrepreneurs out there, and someone who is working for workforce development. I think she’s got a lot more credibility.
GT
Let’s talk fashion for a moment.
PO
This is FLOTUS Friday. On my Facebook page, @PatriceLee, I’m going to put up some pictures of First Lady, Melania Trump’s clothing outfits of the week and I’m going to ask my followers to vote for their favorite ones, but I will just say, she is one of my favorite First Lady’s when it comes to dressing. Her style is impeccable, stylish, elegant. She speaks, First Lady, but just walking in the room.
GT
She and Ivanka, don’t you think, should be on the cover every fashion magazine?
PO
That should be a no-brainer, but they have an (R) next to their name and they are related to President Trump. That obviously negates any sort of fashion or style qualifications they may have, and that is just exposing kind of the bias of the left, particularly women’s magazines and women’s outlets, in general. Let’s just call it what it is. They are biased and they don’t want anyone else to be open to a different perspective and it’s sad.
GT
I couldn’t agree with you more. If people want to follow you, Patrice, where can they find you online?
PO
All right. Let’s start with Twitter @PatricePinkFile. I am wearing pink today.
GT
Beautiful dress; beautiful color.
PO
Thank you. Also follow @IWF for the Independent Women’s Forum. I’m posting on a regular basis and if you want to do FLOTUS Friday, on Facebook, follow me @PatriceLee. Vote for your favorite FLOTUS outfit of the week.
GT
I also have to congratulate you on the birth of your child, and you look fabulous. You make mothers look great everywhere and God bless you and God bless your family.
PO
Thank you so much, Gayle.
Gayle Trotter
This is Gayle Trotter reporting for Right in DC from CPAC 2019. It’s a throng of people and I am so excited that I saw David Harsanyi walking through the crowd. David, thanks so much for talking with me today.
David Harsanyi
Always a pleasure, thanks for talking to me.
GT
What is your impression of CPAC so far?
DH
Actually, I would say it’s pretty low energy compared to other recent years. I think probably because it’s an off year. There is not an election or maybe I’m just here at the wrong time, but I was a little surprised at how subdued it was, actually.
GT
You’re doing a lot of interviews here. What particular topic are people really asking you about?
DH
They’re asking me a lot about gun control. I guess the House just passed some gun control bills, two of them. I think socialism. The word socialism is on a lot of people’s minds, and, I think, infanticide, frankly, the abortion bill. Those are the three main topics I think people are talking about it and it seems to be the sorts of topics they’re talking about on the stage.
GT
I’ve heard people calling Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Che OC instead of AOC. Do you think that’s an effective strategy?
DH
I don’t know. But it is a truthful strategy. She is a socialist. A lot of her ideas are ridiculously left-wing, I think extremist, even for her own party, as we’ve recently seen her butt heads with Nancy Pelosi. I think it’s fair to call out the sort of new, at least the freshman class, and sort of millennial Democrats of socialist, because that’s what they want and that’s what they are. I used to call people commies and socialist, to mock them, I didn’t really mean it, but now it’s evolved to the place where I think I can say that quite confidently about some people.
GT
The RNC has gotten in trouble for — I think it was the RNC — some Republican organization, has gotten in trouble for comparing the extreme left wing to Stalin and they were called out for this. Saying that’s too extreme rhetoric.
What do you think about that?
DH
Yeah. That’s politics. Obviously, I think Stalin is a bit too much. We have to remember that Stalin was the worst mass murder, perhaps in competition with Mau, in the history of the world. Though we should not ignore the fact that socialist systems fail, and people usually die because of it, but I think comparing her to Stalin might be a bit much, if I’m being fair. It’s in the same way that we don’t want people comparing right-wingers to Hitler or anything like that. I think it’s a bit too much, for my taste.
GT
I know you’re busy doing lots of interviews. Thank you so much for taking time with me on Radio Row, David.
DH
Anytime. Thanks for having me.
Gayle Trotter
This is Gayle Trotter, reporting for Right in DC from CPAC 2019. We’re so excited by everyone we see walking down the hall of Radio Row or Broadcast Row, and who did I run into, but my friend Jim Simpson. He is an activist, an author, a freelance journalist, and I’m so delighted to have him join us today. Thanks for coming with us.
Jim Simpson
Hey, great to be with you, Gayle.
GT
We were talking last night, kind of afterhours from CPAC, when everything is winding down a little bit, and I was asking you what you have been talking with the different shows on CPAC Broadcast Row, and you brought up a certain congresswoman and research that you’ve done on her, articles that you’ve written about her.
Can you tell us a little bit about what you’ve discovered?
JS
Yeah. For those who are listening, you can see the article at PJ Media. It’s titled, “Ilhan Omar: Poster Child for the Red-Green Axis.”
GT
What is the Red-Green Axis for those who are not familiar with that term?
JS
The Red-Green Axis is the collaboration between the hard left in America and the organized Islam left, and that’s primarily almost all of the Muslim organizations in the United States are either directly related to or related to the Muslim Brotherhood. They’re all hardcore and they are all very anti-American and they all work together.
GT
The Muslim Brotherhood started in Egypt?
JS
Muslim Brotherhood started in Egypt. Hassan al-Banna was its founder in the 1920s and, interesting even then, he talked about an Arab socialism. It’s not anything really new for them and what most people don’t know is that Osama bin Laden, himself, said in the interest of fighting against the crusaders, there is no problem with us in allying with the socialists, even though we recognize the socialists are infidels. Isn’t that interesting?
GT
That is surprising and I don’t think a lot of people are familiar with the history of that. We see that this discussion of socialism right now, who would have expected we would be having this conversation again, but it has become every day on the news, there is some new wrinkle on the national socialism conversation.
JS
Absolutely. It’s actually not something new. The left has a very clever way of miscasting things. All of these new Muslim leftists are members of the Democratic Socialists of America. Ilhan Omar, actually, she’s not, but Rashida Tlaib and so is Linda Sarsour, and there are a number of others that ran, but didn’t win, also members of DSA, but Democratic Socialists of America is not Democratic.
GT
Why not?
JS
It’s actually a descendant of a communist party and they call themselves Democratic Socialists, because it’s a much gentler sounding name and instead of the symbol being a fist or a hammer and sickle, the symbol is a fist holding a rose.
GT
You’re kidding, right?
JS
No. That’s what the DSA’s symbol is. Many people are members of DSA, including, Nancy Pelosi.
GT
Wow.
JS
Yeah. She was a member of the congressional progressive caucus that was founded and created by the DSA and her name was on there until one of our guys wrote an article about it and then she magically disappeared, and there are a number of other famous “liberals” who are also members, but when they were elevated in the public eye, either becoming a Clinton appointee or Obama appointee, suddenly all that information just vanished. So they couldn’t be associated with that anymore. We don’t forget those things.
GT
Right. That reminds of Barack Obama’s ties to very radical leftists in Chicago and that was all sanitized and the Democrats and their media allies made sure to present him as very moderate before the first time that he was elected president. So you’re seeing some evidence of that continuing to go on where the Democrats have affiliations with this organization, but then they step away from it when light is shown on it?
JS
Yeah. They always try to miscast themselves, at least the leadership does. People like Ilhan Omar and Alexandria occasional-cortex, I call her, they serve a very specific purpose by saying the most outlandish things. Something a little bit less outlandish sounds at least a little bit less outlandish. They move the goal post. They keep on moving the goal post and everything keeps going further and further left. For example, Chuck Schumer talks about highly qualified judicial nominee and says, “Well, but he’s not in the political mainstream.” Chuck Schumer wouldn’t know the mainstream if he was drowning in it.
GT
You’re so right.
JS
He’s so far left he’d fall off the map, but that’s how they play the game, and it’s really Marx’s dialectics. It’s posed the most extreme thing and then when people are shocked and outraged and say how ridiculous it is, you come back and pose what you really want, which is a little bit off of that, but still absurd.
GT
The ratchet always go left. We’ve seen this Obamacare. We’ve seen this with a lot of social programs and once you’ve won at the supreme court, it’s hard to turn that back, for obvious reasons.
You’re doing really important work. Where can people find what you’re writing and what can regular people do who don’t have the time to invest in researching all this stuff and talking about what can regular people do to combat, I would say, the threat of socialism?
JS
Right. You can become informed. I have that article at PJ Media. I have written a lot of things and there is a lot of very, very good qualified people who write for the Center for Security policy.
GT
What is their website?
JS
Centerforsecuritypolicy.org or if that’s hard to remember, securefreedom.org. An enormous amount of research papers, articles, books, most of which you can get as free PDF downloads online. Learn what’s going on. Try to inform as many people as you can, because, really, I believe that the extremism has come out of the closet. It’s been there for decades, but it’s really come out of the closet and I believe that’s because they think that they’re on a winning streak. If they win, trust me, it will be not nearly a devastation for this country, but for the world, because our country has been supporting the rest of the world, even the socialist world, for decades. Without that power, without our economic engine, which is the first thing the socialists want to destroy by pretending that they’re trying to help things through the Green Deal or something like that, the entire world economy would collapse.
GT
I heard from a friend of ours here at CPAC, just about an hour ago, Rick Manning, told me that socialism is scarcity and capitalism is abundance. Isn’t that a great way to put it?
JS
That is absolutely true. Absolutely true. I would go further. I’d say socialism is catastrophe. Socialism is catastrophe. It is organized catastrophe, and the reason the socialists push it is because the devastation that occurs to the rest of us, it’s a vehicle for them to insinuate themselves into power and they insulate themselves from the impacts by using our tax dollars, our resources, our wealth, to make themselves wealthy and the rest of us starve in the streets.
GT
Thank you so much for the yeoman’s work that you were doing to combat the threat of organized catastrophe of socialism and I hope you enjoy the rest of your CPAC time.
JS
Thanks, Gayle. Great to be with you.
GT
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